The answer is definitely "yes" to a post-scientific world, as long as it comes from the Left. Consider the way COVID was handled:
There is zero scientific evidence that total shutdowns have protected us from getting COVID. I am not talking about reasonable precautions, but rather hard, fast, complete shutdowns that have persisted in most Left leaning states and cities. In fact, scientific evidence shows that total shutdowns DO increase depression and suicides, divorces, drop outs from school, killing businesses that people have worked their entire adult lives to build, homelessness (which eventually kills), and on and on. Yet the Left have seemed to persist in this hard core mentality regardless. New York, California and states like these are experiencing mass exodus directly due to this (again, something that can be proven) but that hasn't seemed to stop the nonsensical way this has been handled by the Left. Yet, if you look at the CDC reports on states with the highest PER CAPITA deaths reported from COVID, 9 of the top 10 are Left leaning. Research this yourself. New Jersey and New York are the worst of the worst. Science be dammed. Yet Cuomo was on TV every day on CNN acting as if he were some sort of COVID fighting God, when in reality he was probably one of the subjects biggest oafs. Meanwhile, cities and states that have handled COVID reasonably without Draconian shutdowns have faired better in just about every way. Thus, the mass exodus from the Left leaning states (or even those completely Left controlled like CA) are leaving in droves to places like TX, AZ and FL where actual science is practiced in a reasonable way.
Scientific evidence was clear that COVID was most deadly to older people, those especially over 70. The Princess Cruise event at the beginning of the pandemic showed this clearly. I read through the report on that with interest and realized this early on as a layperson. (I also bought 95 masks early, even though the CDC and WHO were saying not to do that at the time... again, science...) Reports from the CDC and WHO, etc. made this clear to anyone who would actually read the reports that those with advanced age and preexisting conditions were the main ones to protect .. Again, that did not stop governors from 5 different left leaning states (like Cuomo in NY) from FORCING COVID positive, sick, aged, pre-existing conditioned adults back into nursing homes and thus spreading COVID among the very demographic that should have been protected. They died by the thousands and actually these 5 states accounted for the largest majority of COVID deaths in the US, at least through the summer of 2020. Not sure how that looks now, but this was an unthinkable move by Lefty leaders that had ZERO science behind it. Meanwhile NY and CA governors and mayors were busy shutting down skating parks for teens and stopping surfers from surfing alone in the ocean. Scientific?
In that same light, how scientific is it that these Lefty leaders were seen attending (and defending) large George Floyd protests, but railed against people who wanted to attend church, or simply be allowed work their businesses with reasonable precautions? Scientific?
All scientific evidence pointed to the fact that COVID originated from Wuhan China. Emperical evidence was clear that China shut down travel within its own borders, yet allowed travel OUTSIDE its borders, thus allowing COVID to spread everywhere in the world. The Left leaning WHO defended China for the good part of 2020, and to this day the Left doesn't want to "blame" China for this world changing pandemic, No, it's better to blame Donald Trump.
In that same vein, when Donald Trump banned travel from China in late February 2020, no less than Joe Biden ridiculed him as "racist" for doing so. The rest of the Left did this same name calling, completely ignoring science. I don't defend Trump in everything he has done, but that one he certainly got right. Even Fauci had to give him credit later on, but only after questioning it at first. Yet the Left was able to pin blame on Trump for COVID, when it is reality THEY who made things worse and the Left leaning places are the worst off, even to this day. Notice even now how CA is fumbling and bumbling its way through the vaccination process. This is how the Left handles things.
But the Left does other unscientific things as well. Take the CA fires. Left groups have interfered or stopped the reasonable deforestation efforts because of the tree-hugging mentality gone amok. Everyone should take care of the environment, no one should have a problem with that. But nature shows that if you don't thin out forest, clean out dead trees, create burn lines, etc. once a fire gets started, it will burn through everything including homes, people, animals, businesses, etc. No, it's better to blame Climate change on the fires than look to themselves for their total mismanagement of the issue. Scientific?
How about climate change? The #1 biggest offender in the world in Carbon emissions is China. TWICE as much as the United States, which is #2. Period. Total science. Not even disputed. So, if the Left REALLY cared about Climate change, they would rail against China all day, every day, just for that reason alone. Sure, rail against the U.S. too if you like, I have no problem there; we can certainly do better. But for goodness sake, why is the Left giving China a pass if they really care about the climate? I have seen literally ZERO Left leaning organization that constantly go against the U.S. and other democratic countries do or say ANYTHING about China. If the US. could cut it's emissions in half tomorrow, China would still be choking the entire world. That's like asking your neighbor on the right to stop dumping his trash on your lawn, but the neighbor on your left is dumping twice as much and you say nothing. Scientific?
No. It's idiocy.
Brock Talon
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Are We Now Living in a POST-Science world (at least politically?)
by Terry inif your sex is only what you say it is, without any reference to biological reality, .
your race can be only what you say it is, without any reference to biological reality.. .
is this repudiation of science?
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The Amazing Solar System
by LoveUniHateExams ini gotta say, i don't know much about the solar system.
i never was particularly interested in it.. but i've recently read professor brian cox's book (which accompanies a bbc series) and it's completely fascinating.. i'm quite interested in pictures of mars.
martian landscapes seem familiar and different at the same time ….
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Brock Talon
Waton, the Titius-Bode law is intriguing to me, but Neptune always sits there as a big fat gassy giant spoiler. Because of Neptune, the jamming in of Ceres as a planet (or simply counting the asteroid belt as a planet... kinda weak) and the fact that the Bode law doesn't explain the "why" of anything, I tend to think of it as a mathematical coincidence with a degree of fudge rather than an actual law.
But, I could be wrong.
In any event it doesn't matter; my feelings about Pluto are more emotional than logical. Eris is nearly as large and probably just as strange, but it wasn't known in my childhood days when I first learned about our solar system. When Eris was eventually discovered, it seemed to be part of the reason Pluto was demoted. Booo! Down with Eris! Go away spoiler.
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The Amazing Solar System
by LoveUniHateExams ini gotta say, i don't know much about the solar system.
i never was particularly interested in it.. but i've recently read professor brian cox's book (which accompanies a bbc series) and it's completely fascinating.. i'm quite interested in pictures of mars.
martian landscapes seem familiar and different at the same time ….
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Brock Talon
Personally, I love Pluto. When I was a child, I learned "there are nine planets in our solar system"... but since then, Pluto has been reclassified as a "dwarf planet" which is not a a first class planet at all. This was a very controversial decision that not all astronomers agreed with and I followed the argumentation with great interest. But because it had not cleared it neighborhood of other objects, "they" decided it was not a "planet" and that was that. Still, it qualifies for a dwarf planet, so it still is a "planet" in my book. (As apposed to an asteroid, comet, or some other more trivial celestial body.)
Well, I love all the odd things about Pluto, among these are:Pluto's biggest moon, Charon, is about half its width. They orbit each other like a dual planet system. (See photo)
Pluto has an elliptical orbit (year) that takes 248 Earth years to complete. If there were humanoid life on Pluto and their lifespan was similar to ours, they would never age to even one Pluto year old. Most would die before reaching 1/3 of a year old. Its orbit also comes closer than Neptune's orbit at its closest, but Pluto orbits at an inclined plane to that of the solar system's eight planets. Because of this very odd elliptical orbit, the methane can freeze and snow (with red snow!) and then thaw and refreeze again during its 248 year orbit as it gets closer and then farther from the Sun.
Pluto is tiny (about) 2/3 the size of our moon, but rotates at 153 Earth hours. If there were humanoid life on Pluto and they had to work 1/3 of a day like we do (working 8 hour days) their work day would be 50 hours.
Pluto was named by an 11 year old who was fascinated by Roman Mythology. Pluto was the god of the underworld, also named in Greek: Hades. All of its moons are named similarly: Charon, Styx, Nix, Hydra, Kerberos. If you don't know these names, you don't know your mythology! I always loved Greek and Roman mythology, so I love Pluto and its moons for this alone.There are so many other interesting things about Pluto, the most prominent of the Kuiper belt objects and probably the most well known dwarf planets.
I thought I would share this cool stuff about my favorite planet: Pluto. Yes, Pluto will always be the ninth planet to me. Go ahead and make the other dwarf planets actual planets if you wish. I don't care. And even though it rains diamonds on Neptune, Pluto's red methane snow rocks.
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I'm feeling cold
by Lost in the fog inwhen i was a jw i would look to the bible or the wt society to answer all of my problems.. now as an older person i get cold in the wintertime and have trouble getting warm down to bad circulation.
i found an answer in the bible at 1 kings 1:2, but i don't think my pimi wife will let me apply this bible principle.
lol.
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Brock Talon
Don't fool yourselves, back in those days pretty much EVERYONE was smelly, young or old, pretty or ugly alike.
Without constant bathing with soaps and body washes, deodorants and talcs, lotions, perfumes and colognes, dental hygiene aids, etc., we would all smell like farm animals.
Being a king and waited on hand and foot, David was probably one of the better smelling people back then.
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Video: Surprise Reunion After 10 years of Shunning
by NuzzleNudge inhttps://youtu.be/ribgldualbm.
my husband hadn’t seen his sister for 10 years.
we were jehovah's witnesses and thanks to their disgusting, arbitrary brainwashing, 10 years of loving our family was wasted shunning them.
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Brock Talon
On a beautiful Sunday morning with my family sleeping in and the whole house quiet, I was unexpectedly brought to tears by this video.
I guess it's because I know I will never experience this kind of healing with my estranged extended family, I was simultaneously happy for the people in the video and sad for myself.
Still, I wish I could watch a hundred more like this. Really, really wonderful. Thanks for sharing NuzzleNudge.
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The Worst doctrine of JWs- Ressurection and Paradise
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inbesides the facts that one needs to take numerous verses from the ot and nt and smash them together to make this theology (which works out to a modern day zorastriaism) the whole concept is realy horrific.. first it teachs that your life is worthless and should be exploited until the next one in paradise/or heaven.
second it teachs that you dead loved ones are still around either in heaven or jeblooper's memory.
so don't greive.
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Brock Talon
This issue is also one of my pet peeves as well.
See my previous post on this which I called "False Advertisements for a fake future that will never happen."
Notice too how much doctrine I mentioned in my experience at Bethel that happened to me 38 years ago that has since been changed with "new light"...
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What Fun Things Have You Been Doing While In Lock-Down?
by Simon inso we've all been locked down and there's only so much netflix / prime / disney / hbo you can watch and computer games you can play.
what has everyone been doing to pass the time?.
when you're completely stuck inside and working from home it can get a bit boring staring at the same walls all day and then in the evening as well.
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Brock Talon
Flew a kite today with my family in a local park. First did it a few days ago in our back yard (we live on a lake, but have too many trees nearby to do it well) and that was the first time in many years. We headed to the park for more room today. Instead of one kite for the family, I think we'll get one for each of us and see who can get theirs the highest, swoop the lowest, zig-zag the most, and try not to tangle in the trees or with each other. Great fun, a little exercise, fresh air, laughter and it makes me feel like a kid again. Costs next to nothing to-boot.
I just might try out the scooter idea next!
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Fruits of the spirit
by asp59 into all that been in betel service.
as 1440.000 are suppose to rule like kings they must also be an example of putting the fruits of the spirit in there daily life(charity, joy, peace, patience, benignity (kindness), goodness, longanimity (forbearance), mildness (gentleness), faith, modesty, continency (self-control), and chastity.).
have you meet a gb member or other from the 144.000 in betel when you were there that you could easy see that this person wakes up in the morning and is determined to apply fruits of the spirit in there life?
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Brock Talon
The short answer to this is "yes," there were some sincere (if not flawed) Governing Body members and other "heavies" I knew during my time at Bethel.
The long answer can be found in a few posts I wrote years ago on this forum...
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Elon Musk, And The CyberTruck That Homer Built
by Simon ini think tesla and musk have officially jumped the shark.. did you see the "cybertruck" they released?
it's like the car that homer built!.
it has to be the ugliest vehicle ever built.
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Brock Talon
I'm getting one with the trailer!
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The Day I Met a Midnight Cowboy
by Terry in“the day i met a midnight cowboy”a hollywood memory .
he approached me at the service counter.
clutched in his hand : something in a small paper bag.
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Brock Talon
This was an interesting story, Terry. It has life lessons in it that are worth sharing. Thanks for doing so.